Talmud su II Samuele 24:31

²⁷One returns to the prior topic, to try to understand R. Eliezer’s position in view of biblical verses which seem to indicate that Gentile animals are perfectly acceptable as sacrifices. Rebbi Isaac and Rebbi Immi were sitting and asking, is it not written²⁸2Chr.15:11. At first glance this refers to the booty which they took from the Nubians as described in Chapter 14 since no other war of Asa was mentioned.: On that day they slaughtered of the booty for the Eternal? They explained it, but we do not know whether the colleagues explained it or Rebbi Immi explained it, from previous ones, from booty which was in their hands they sacrificed²⁹Since Chapter 15 does not refer to the war described in Chapter 14, it is not necessary to assume that “the booty” was taken from the Nubians.. But is it not written³⁰1S. 6:15, one the day the Philistines returned the Ark on a carriage drawn by cows.: The men of Bet Shemesh brought an elevation offering and slaughtered family offerings to the Eternal, oxen? Can we learn anything from the rulers of the Philistines? Did not Rebbi Abbahu say in the name of Rebbi Yose ben Ḥanina, they even sacrificed females, the cows they offered as elevation offering to the Eternal³¹1S. 6:14. In Lev. 1:3 it is spelled out that an elevation offering must be a male animal. Since the entire proceedings were irregular, one cannot infer anything about the rules to follow.. But is it not written³²1S. 15:15. As explained in v. 21, the animals taken from the Gentile tribe were to be slaughtered as sacrifices. Babli 24b., Saul said, they brought them from the Amalekite? One does not learn from Saul; as Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, Saul was a sycamore shoot³³Something inedible. In the Babli, Eruvin53a/b, the verse 1S. 14:47 in interpreted that religious practice never follows Saul. The same is intended here.. But it is not written³⁴2S. 24:24., David bought the threshing floor? He bought but did not sacrifice. But is it not written³⁵2S. 24:23. To give pleasure before the Eternal usually is asserted of sacrifices (e. g., Ex. 28:38). Babli 24b., Arawna said to the king, may the Eternal, your God, have pleasure with you. May he find pleasure with you in prayer. But is it not written³⁶Lev. 22:25., Also from the hand of a stranger you should not bring your God’s bread from any of these? From any of these you do not sacrifice; you buy unblemished ones and sacrifice. What does Rebbi Eliezer do with this? You are buying for money and sacrifice? The one who stated “for money” cannot follow Rebbi Eliezer³⁷Since R. Eliezer considers all animals of a Gentile unfit for the altar. But he must read the verse as absolute prohibition of accepting any sacrifice from a Gentile, similar to Sifra Emor Pereq7(12) where the verse is read to prohibit accepting money of the Temple tax from Gentiles..

²⁷One returns to the prior topic, to try to understand R. Eliezer’s position in view of biblical verses which seem to indicate that Gentile animals are perfectly acceptable as sacrifices. Rebbi Isaac and Rebbi Immi were sitting and asking, is it not written²⁸2Chr.15:11. At first glance this refers to the booty which they took from the Nubians as described in Chapter 14 since no other war of Asa was mentioned.: On that day they slaughtered of the booty for the Eternal? They explained it, but we do not know whether the colleagues explained it or Rebbi Immi explained it, from previous ones, from booty which was in their hands they sacrificed²⁹Since Chapter 15 does not refer to the war described in Chapter 14, it is not necessary to assume that “the booty” was taken from the Nubians.. But is it not written³⁰1S. 6:15, one the day the Philistines returned the Ark on a carriage drawn by cows.: The men of Bet Shemesh brought an elevation offering and slaughtered family offerings to the Eternal, oxen? Can we learn anything from the rulers of the Philistines? Did not Rebbi Abbahu say in the name of Rebbi Yose ben Ḥanina, they even sacrificed females, the cows they offered as elevation offering to the Eternal³¹1S. 6:14. In Lev. 1:3 it is spelled out that an elevation offering must be a male animal. Since the entire proceedings were irregular, one cannot infer anything about the rules to follow.. But is it not written³²1S. 15:15. As explained in v. 21, the animals taken from the Gentile tribe were to be slaughtered as sacrifices. Babli 24b., Saul said, they brought them from the Amalekite? One does not learn from Saul; as Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, Saul was a sycamore shoot³³Something inedible. In the Babli, Eruvin53a/b, the verse 1S. 14:47 in interpreted that religious practice never follows Saul. The same is intended here.. But it is not written³⁴2S. 24:24., David bought the threshing floor? He bought but did not sacrifice. But is it not written³⁵2S. 24:23. To give pleasure before the Eternal usually is asserted of sacrifices (e. g., Ex. 28:38). Babli 24b., Arawna said to the king, may the Eternal, your God, have pleasure with you. May he find pleasure with you in prayer. But is it not written³⁶Lev. 22:25., Also from the hand of a stranger you should not bring your God’s bread from any of these? From any of these you do not sacrifice; you buy unblemished ones and sacrifice. What does Rebbi Eliezer do with this? You are buying for money and sacrifice? The one who stated “for money” cannot follow Rebbi Eliezer³⁷Since R. Eliezer considers all animals of a Gentile unfit for the altar. But he must read the verse as absolute prohibition of accepting any sacrifice from a Gentile, similar to Sifra Emor Pereq7(12) where the verse is read to prohibit accepting money of the Temple tax from Gentiles..

HALAKHAH: “Whether one entered the courtyard,” etc. ⁵⁴This Halakhah is a very truncated and inferior copy of parts of Sanhedrin1:5 (Notes 288–294). The second paragraph is from the end of that Halakhah, Note 326. Its inclusion indicates that all of that Halakhah should be studied here. Rav said, at the start: ⁵⁵2S.24:19.David ascended following Gad’s word, that is King and Prophet. ⁵⁶2Chr. 3:1.Solomon started to build the Temple of the Eternal in Jerusalem, these are Urim and Tummim. ⁵⁶2Chr. 3:1.And his father David, this is the Synhedrion, ⁵⁷Deut. 32:7.ask your father and he will tell you. Song, after them went Hoshaia and the officers⁵⁸Neh. 12:32.. Thanksgiving sacrifices, I put up two thanksgiving sacrifices⁵⁹Neh. 12:31.. Rebbi Samuel bar Rebbi Yudan said, what is written, walking? No, being in procession.

“One may start a war of choice only by the court of 71 [judges]²⁸⁷This probably should be deleted.. ²⁸⁸The following four paragraphs do not refer to the quote of the Mishnah but are a commentary to Mishnah Ševuot 2:2: “One only adds to the city and the Temple courtyards by king and prophet, Urim and Tummim, the Synhedrion of 71 members, two thanksgiving sacrifices, and song.” Only the walled part of the city of Jerusalem counts as “before the Eternal”, where family sacrifices may be consumed (Deut.12:18,14:23); the suburbs are “countryside” which does not count for pilgrimage and sacrifice. Since there were no Urim and Tummim in the Second Temple, Pharisees did not consume sacrifices in the parts of Jerusalem which were added in Hasmonean and later times (Note 306).
In Ševuot, only beginning and end of the discussion here are quoted as a reference. Rebbi Jehudah says, as at the start: ²⁸⁹2S. 24:19, speaking of David going to buy the Temple area.David ascended following Gad’s word, that is king and prophet. ²⁹⁰2Chr. 3:1. The verse is misquoted in several places.Solomon started to build the Temple of the Eternal, Israel’s God, on Mount Moriah where He had appeared to him, there are Urim and Tummim. ²⁹⁰2Chr. 3:1. The verse is misquoted in several places.To his father David, this is the Synhedrion, ²⁹¹Deut. 32:7. The persons one asks to get definitive answers to all questions of religion are the members of the High Court of 71 members.ask your father and he will tell you, your Elders and they will speak to you. Song, after them went Hoshaia and half the officers of Judea²⁹²Neh. 12:32. This refers to the members of the Synhedrion walking behind the thanksgiving sacrifices (Ševuot 15b); the musical part of the ceremony is described in verses 41,42.. Thanksgiving sacrifices, I put up two large thanksgiving sacrifices being in procession going to their right on the wall going to the dung gate²⁹³Neh. 12:31.. Rebbi Samuel bar Yudan said, what is written, walking? No, being in procession, only being taken by others²⁹⁴In his opinion, the sacrifices were not walked on the wall but were carried. In the opinion of the Babli, Ševuot 15a and Tosephta Sanhedrin 3:4, not the animals were carried but the leavened bread required for a thanksgiving sacrifice (Lev. 7:13). It is possible that this is meant here..